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  The Bible's Buried Secrets, new findings on how the ancient Israelites became supposedly monotheistic

  by Finkelstein in

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  i viewed this tv series recently and found the information interesting to say the least.. here is part 2 which got my attention the most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd0lzmile8.

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  Elder and i discussed beards, and got into rules and regulations

  by Jon Preston in

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  during a study the elder brought out that eating blood and omens are from the devil, and brought me to leviticus 19:26 (i think).. in verse 27 i says this:.

  you must not shave the hair on the side of your head or disfigure the edges of your beard.. i said: "so why are we not allowed to have beards?".

  elder: "thats a good question, cleric.

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  Precisely DD...it contradicts itself....not to mention is not logical at all. He even disagreed with the rule not to have beards, yet had to really twist things to obey the shepards....
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  Elder and i discussed beards, and got into rules and regulations

  by Jon Preston in

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  during a study the elder brought out that eating blood and omens are from the devil, and brought me to leviticus 19:26 (i think).. in verse 27 i says this:.

  you must not shave the hair on the side of your head or disfigure the edges of your beard.. i said: "so why are we not allowed to have beards?".

  elder: "thats a good question, cleric.

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  During a study the elder brought out that eating blood and omens are from the devil, and brought me to Leviticus 19:26 (i think).

  in verse 27 i says this:

  “‘You must not shave the hair on the side of your head or disfigure the edges of your beard.

  I said: "So why are we not allowed to have beards?"

  elder: "Thats a good question, Cleric. I feel the same as u sometimes. In fact when something controversial comes up in the elders meeting i usually say 'im gonnna grow a beard then!' Lol. But think about this: If we allow beards whats the next thing we must do?"

  Me: (knowing how legalistic they are)"You would come up with a list of rules and regukations about how it should be trimmed."

  elder: correct.

  me: but the bible doesnt say that...

  elder: Well there are better hygiene techniques now than in the Bible and its really based on culture for what the brothers allow. But brother isnt it easier to say "if you have a beard u cant have priviledgs"? Or is it better to make a bunch more rules and regukations after allowing it? And think about this: Political people rarely have beards or mustaches...they want to appear clean. How much more so that Jehovahs peoe should.

  Me: But Elder, whis world is this?

  elder: satans.

  Me: So why are we not allowing brithers to have beards based on Satans system and what he accepts with ones culture? And if we want to appear clean and pure why have Mustaches? To me mustaches are much more creepy and unclean looking than Beards. Not to mention our culture doesnt look at mistaches as attractive or "clean" it makes the individual appear more untrustworthy in many peoples opinions.

  Elder: well we just dont want to further burden brothers by putting more rules and regulations on them.

  after this he twisted and turned words to help me appreciate this loving areangement by Jehovah. I agreed to disagree but said i understand what he was saying.

  But good Lord!!!! Really? Lol
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  Sunday School etc....

  by quellycatface in

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  i have never understood why the jw's did'nt have a sunday school or some kind of educational thing going for children.

  it seems pretty selfish and antiquated.. i remember growing up, i was terrified of "satan" and "the demons".

  not forgetting the "jehovah is watching you" crapola.. i think it's wrong letting young kids listen to fairly adult themed talks, items etc....it's got to affect them mentally.. any thoughts?.

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  I chatted with a bro last night about this and he said how happy he was that the kids dont have sunday school. He said when he grew up in the church he took sunday school classes and rarely learned Bible principles....he says Witnesses prepare their mids to pay attention and learn patience....

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  Don't Question GOD! (aka the governing body)

  by sunny23 in

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  did a simple search in the wt library for words like, "question," "questioning," "doubts/ing,"obey," "understand.".

  these are listed in order of occurence oldest to newest (up to 2012 as my library is 2012 version).

  "if we have love for jehovah and for the organization of his people we shall not be suspicious, but shall, as the bible says, 'believe all things,' all the things that the watchtower brings out"qualified to be ministers (1955) p.156.

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  heres the kicker--if u refused to believe they were appointed over the belongs prior to this change you could and probably would be discellowshipped......so any who didnt believe this for 90 years were df'ed? Lol
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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  From wiki:

  The Christadelphian community in Britain effectively dates from Thomas's first lecturing tour (May 1848 – October 1850). His message was particularly welcomed in Scotland, and Campbellite, Unitarian andAdventist friends separated to form groups of "Baptised Believers". Two thirds of ecclesias, and members, in Britain before 1864 were in Scotland. [ 8 ] [ 9 ] [ 10 ] In 1849, during his tour of Britain, he completed (a decade and a half before the name Christadelphian was conceived)Elpis Israel [ 11 ] in which he laid out his understanding of the main doctrines of the Bible.

  Since his medium for bringing change was print and debate, it was natural for the origins of the Christadelphian body to be associated with books and journals, such as Thomas's Herald of the Kingdom.

  In his desire to seek to establish Biblical truth and test out orthodox Christian beliefs through independent scriptural study he was not alone and, amongst other churches, he also had links with Adventistmovement and with Benjamin Wilson (who later set up the Church of God of the Abrahamic Faith in the 1860s).

  interesting correlation to the IBS.
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  New Doscovery about Noahs Ark (cue mystery music)

  by Jon Preston in

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  'the ark before noah' - curator irving finkel decodes the story of the floodit was a vast boat that saved two of each animal and a handful of humans from a catastrophic flood.. but forget all those images of a long vessel with a pointy bow the original noah's ark, new research suggests, was round.. a recently deciphered 4,000-year-old tablet from ancient mesopotamia modern-day iraq reveals striking new details about the roots of the old testament tale of noah.

  it tells a similar story, complete with detailed instructions for building a giant round vessel known as a coracle as well as the key instruction that animals should enter "two by two.".

  the tablet went on display at the british museum on friday, and soon engineers will follow the ancient instructions to see whether the vessel could actually have sailed.. it's also the subject of a new book, "the ark before noah," by irving finkel, the museum's assistant keeper of the middle east and the man who translated the tablet.. iiiiiiiiiiinteresting eh?

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  'The Ark Before Noah' - curator Irving Finkel decodes the story of the Flood

  

  It was a vast boat that saved two of each animal and a handful of humans from a catastrophic flood.

  But forget all those images of a long vessel with a pointy bow — the original Noah's Ark, new research suggests, was round.

  A recently deciphered 4,000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia — modern-day Iraq — reveals striking new details about the roots of the Old Testament tale of Noah. It tells a similar story, complete with detailed instructions for building a giant round vessel known as a coracle — as well as the key instruction that animals should enter "two by two."

  The tablet went on display at the British Museum on Friday, and soon engineers will follow the ancient instructions to see whether the vessel could actually have sailed.

  It's also the subject of a new book, "The Ark Before Noah," by Irving Finkel, the museum's assistant keeper of the Middle East and the man who translated the tablet.

  Iiiiiiiiiiinteresting eh? Maybe it will explain the kangaroo and koala questions nagging at my brains ;-)
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  Observations about last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  ... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!

  draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.

  excruciatingly boring.

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  DD--thats why i wasnt appointed for priviledges lol havent been out in service in months! Just put 4 hours for informal witnessing haha
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  From Captives of a Concept: Gods Prophet, Hypocrisy and Propaganda used to control.

  by Jon Preston in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i teresting info from caltives of a concept....i cannot express how fantastic this book has been and i highly recommend it.

  the first thing i found to be huge.

  (because the society trues to explain it away so well):.

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  Oh yea i read it....it was a startling account and really shows u how thinks go down in the Fds room.
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  From Captives of a Concept: Gods Prophet, Hypocrisy and Propaganda used to control.

  by Jon Preston in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i teresting info from caltives of a concept....i cannot express how fantastic this book has been and i highly recommend it.

  the first thing i found to be huge.

  (because the society trues to explain it away so well):.

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  Lol it wasnt me it was Don Cameron who thought of it but yes i think youre right